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I've (unsuccessfully) been trying to BUY TF2 keys from here for the past 4-5 days now. Obviously I refresh regularly, but I just never see any keys available to buy, morning, noon or night.

 

I could sell very easily, no problem.

 

The Scrap.tf key prices are all perfectly fair and in-line with bp.tf prices, so I fail to see why anyone would not be selling keys here for 1 scrap less than the buy price.

 

It makes no sense unless I'm being *extremely* unlucky, or more likely some bots are auto-scanning and buying up keys as soon as they're available?!

 

Really frustrating anyway, as I've been getting a lot of ref lately and wanted to cash them in for keys before they get devalued further as the trend seems to be at the moment.

 

Would it be possible for the devs to look into this and see if most of the keys ARE going to the same buyers over and over, or not?

 

What are other people's experience of this lately? It never used to be a problem to buy keys here with a bit of patience.

 

Thanks

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6 minutes ago, _BillCipher | ScrapTF said:

You should post questions like this in the Help and Support section of the forum.

 

I wanted to know also whether other people were suffering similarly.

 

No point asking in the Help & Support forum as answers are only visible to yourself according to the forum statement.

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2 minutes ago, Thimple ThighMan said:

No point asking in the Help & Support forum as answers are only visible to yourself according to the forum statement.

 

Yourself and the supporters.

 

Just realised what you meant. Well, yes, there is no way of finding out if others have the same issue, but that isn't really needed to help the problem.

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3 minutes ago, _BillCipher | ScrapTF said:

 

Yourself and the supporters.

 

Just realised what you meant. Well, yes, there is no way of finding out if others have the same issue, but that isn't really needed to help the problem.

 

Well, I don't know that it IS a problem unless other people agree similarly. :)

 

That's why I'm asking here.

 

Yes, I'd make a Help & Support topic if it turns out to be justified. At the moment it's just a notion I personally have.

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It's no big conspiracy -- keys are bought from the site as quickly as they are sold. There's no real solution to this, apart from adjusting the price we sell for to the point where keys aren't almost instantly bought, and we don't want to do that for obvious reasons. Looking at the data we have, there doesn't appear to be any indication that some bot is eating them up.

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Ok, thanks Ben.

 

So, just me being paranoid then. :)

 

I see you just upped the buy / sell spread to 0.22 now anyway and put it up yet another ref higher than the bp.tf prices! So, I expect there'll be a glut of keys now that won't sell! ;)

 

No longer an attractive price to buy at. Selling on the other hand...

 

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30 minutes ago, Thimple ThighMan said:

Ok, thanks Ben.

 

So, just me being paranoid then. :)

 

I see you just upped the buy / sell spread to 0.22 now anyway and put it up yet another ref higher than the bp.tf prices! So, I expect there'll be a glut of keys now that won't sell! ;)

 

No longer an attractive price to buy at. Selling on the other hand...

 

We're generally behind the curve (for good reason), the price update just brings it more in line with actual market value and not the value listed on backpack.tf

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1 hour ago, Thimple ThighMan said:

I have plenty of keys. I've been gathering a lot of ref lately though.

 

You need wallet funds to buy from the market anyway. It's a different thing altogether.

I saw a key being sold from the bought, just didn't buy it :P

Also there's one key buyable now, I just don't buy it since boughts are buying for 29ref on backpack.tf

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