I'm going to tell my experience so far with trading. 2 weeks ago my whole BP was +/- 0.33 ref, after 2 days, without even opening the game, I went from 0.33 ref to almost 1 key. How? Item bots. There are a lot of people who put genuines/vintages/stranges in the bots. In case you care, here's the basic process. *slow part* For now, since you are scrapbanking I suggest you to look into the weapon bots, at random, hopefully you'll find a vintage weapon. And with that you'll have a 0.16 ref profit, plus the profit that you are currently making it's going to workout. *ez pz part* After you got 1.66 ref or more, now you can go into the hat bots, now you are going to make profit faster. If you look on bp.TF there are a lot of bots/automated trades, that is what you have to look out for. Let's say you buy a hat from the bots, 1.55ref, and there is an automated trade over BP.tf for 1.66ref, you just made 1 scrap of proft, probably you're going to find genuines in the bots, which again, is profit. After that you have to go and trade on an actual server. Read the damn rules, it's not that hard to do ç_ç